“Four Thousand Weeks” with Cheryl K. Johnson

Author Cheryl K. Johnson joins us to discuss one of her favorite books, Four Thousand Weeks by Oliver Burkeman.



Cheryl was a research director for nearly twenty years until boxing training gave her the courage to leave corporate life for something that felt more like her true self. Box Lunch Lifestyle is how she now helps people realize that richer, more satisfying lives aren’t as distant as they seem. Secretly, Cheryl loves grocery stores: small family-owned ones, national chains, co-ops, and the corner convenience store. Seeing everyday life through the lens of what food is available, and what people actually buy, fascinates her—and reinforces her disdain for weight loss programs and companies that thrive by selling non-nutritious food. When she’s not boxing, reading, or pushing a cart, Cheryl and her husband enjoy documentary films and Indian food. They live near St. Paul, MN, in a town that Cheryl describes as a cross between Lake Wobegon and Twin Peaks.

Learn more at cherylkjohnson.com.



Kristen Manieri is a coach who works with teams to increase both productivity and wellbeing. She also helps individuals navigate transition with clarity and confidence. Her areas of focus are: stress reduction, energy management, mindset, resilience, habit formation, rest rituals, and self-care. As the host of the weekly 60 Mindful Minutes podcast, an Apple top 100 social science podcast, Kristen has interviewed over 200 authors about what it means to live a more conscious, connected, intentional and joyful life. Learn more at kristenmanieri.com/work-with-me.

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